
FIRST IMPRESSIONS
Chromag Darco
Some small bike brands might require an introduction – Chromag isn’t one of them. Over two decades the Whistler, BC-based brand has become legendary, cranking out aggressive steel hardtails designed for folks charging hard in gnarly terrain. If you’ve ever spent time in the Sea to Sky region, or seen photos, it can be a bit rugged around here; its not what most people would think of as hardtail terrain. That hasn’t stopped Chromag (or its riders) from pushing geometry and what’s possible on classic double diamonds. There’s been the odd foray into lighter weight hardtails (I wouldn’t call them XC), and even a still-functioning full suspension prototype a decade ago, but the reality is they’ve never strayed far from the path, for long.
*If you haven’t read AJ’s Behind the Brand piece on Chromag, take a pause to go do so now. And then when you're back, have a gander at the more recent Makers piece here.

The first Chromag frame, the TRL on the left, still adorns the office in Function Junction. As do copious speakers. Photo: AJ Barlas

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the namesake of the Darco, D'arcy Burke. D'arcy was an all around amazing human, Chromag employee since 2014, and succumbed to cancer all too young in 2020. More from Chromag here. Photo: AJ Barlas
Chromag was founded on a bike built for the terrain and riding style of the founder Ian Ritz. Now, there's an entire office full of hard charging men and women, selling an array of componentry, soft goods, and the ever-present lineup of steel hardtails where you can pick your country of origin – Canada or Taiwan. They’re carved a niche as the epitome of cool, even if most people don’t actually want to ride a hardtail.
Enter the Darco.

The Darco sports 120mm of travel out back, and if you ever forget you can just look down. This one is a custom Truelove colourway appropriately called C3PO, production Darcos come in 'Dark Olive' or 'Dark Grey'. Stainless steel accessory mount by WZRD. Photo: Cooper Quinn
In many ways the Darco is what you’d expect from Chromag in 2022 – 150mm Rock Shox Pike up front, 64-degree head tube angle, 78-degree seat tube angle, threaded bb in a chromoly triangle, UDH hanger, 29” wheels, and “perfect for the type of terrain we have in the Sea to Sky, steep climbs and steeper descents.” It's only once you get to the aluminum Horst link attached to the seat tube that things diverge from standard Chromag fare. This link drives a 165x45mm RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate and gives the Darco 120mm of rear travel through an aluminum seatstay and chainstay. Given the close ties between SRAM and Chromag, it's no surprise to see all complete options adorned solely with bits from the Chicago-based manufacturer striking a good balance of functionality, weight, and cost. Any component that doesn't say SRAM, RockShox, or Maxxis comes from Chromag's house brand. While people may attempt to disparage house brands like Bontrager or Roval, I'd say no one is complaining their bike is adorned in Chromag. Value-wise, a $6,850 full suspension bike doesn't seem wildly inappropriate; it's worth noting that the Darcos Chromag is selling now on their website are made in Taiwan. In true Chromag fashion, there was an early batch of 30 bikes sold to select customers earlier this year welded by Brad Howlett on Vancouver Island.
If you want to get deep into the weeds with kinematics, the thesis behind the bike, exploded views of the pivot system, and all the FAQ you could want, have a look here.

The business bits. There's been enough ink spilled debating the merits and pitfalls of trunnion mounts, so I'll skip it. Spec'ing a piggyback shock on a 120mm bike says a lot about what the bike is built to do. Stock builds come with a 30t chainring, if you think you're Nino Schurter you can't fit anything bigger than 34t Photo: Cooper Quinn

The SRAM GX drivetrain is no nonsense functionality. Sure, it's heavier than XO1 but you get all the same gear range, and alloy cranks that some folks prefer. Injection molded rubber bits on the chainstay keep the Darco quiet. Photo: Cooper Quinn

There's a little rubber flap to keep grime out of the main pivot, and external cables routing to make 50% of the internet happy, and 50% complaining about aesthetics. Photo: Cooper Quinn

As far as "house brand" components go, it's hard to complain here. You could lose weight by swapping out the saddle and cockpit, but you'd lose that Chromag cool factor. Photo: Cooper Quinn

Tire clearance under the seat stay bridge with the stock Maxxis DHRII is sufficient, although not particularly roomy. Photo: Cooper Quinn

Standard format geo chart - I was on an M/L sized Darco, which felt appropriate for my not-quite-five-eleven height and shorter than average inseam.
Riding the Darco
One of the upsides to working with NSMB is the opportunity to ride a wide variety of bikes – not just bikes I write about, but often once someone else has finished up with a bike, I’ll steal it for a cheeky ride or five. What this means in practical terms is that I’m quite comfortable hopping on an unfamiliar bike and getting it to a happy setup in a ride or two. I struggled on the Darco – getting the rear suspension somewhere that felt right took longer than usual. Somewhere around ride five, after upping the air pressure to 230 PSI (~20% sag) and the maximum three volume spacers installed, it all started to make sense and work.
I'd note the spec sheet lists two volume spacers as standard; my version had one installed. Had I started at two, I likely would have gotten to a good setup more quickly. The other factor is the difference in setup between the front and rear - you're going for quite different characteristics here, so going for a balanced feel and traditional sag split front/rear won't necessarily work. More on why that is shortly.

I rode the Darco before Crankworx, so the riding and light were awful. Bright sun, and not a wet root to be seen. It's also the most challenging bike I've been on to hide - the vivid gold paint emblazoned with Chromag, and obvious "rear suspension" meant speeding through a lot of trail intersections and then hearing, "What the **** was that?!" behind you. Photo: Deniz Merdano
Climbing
There’s nothing dramatic, or particularly interesting about pedaling up a hill on the Darco. It’s got enough suspension to smooth things out a bit and keep traction through technical bits but is firm enough and with has sufficient anti-squat. I was never reaching for a climb switch. The seat tube angle puts you in a position that’s comfortable climbing, although it's far enough forward with enough reach that on flatter terrain there’s a bit more weight on your shoulders than I prefer. Overall, climbing isn’t the Darco’s forte – it’s not bad, it pedals like a firm 120mm bike - but don’t bother trying to set any records. Settle in and spin your way to the top.

Climbing on the Darco isn't a chore - but it's still a 35-pound bike on enduro sized rims and rubber. Apologies to Deniz for the dreaded Phone Pocket.
Descending
This is where things get significantly more interesting. It’s a Chromag; the geometry, front suspension, and build kit encourage hard charging, aggressive riding but also like a Chromag the Darco constantly reminds you how much travel it doesn’t have out back. Now, I realize that sounds like a strange thing to say about a full suspension bike when I’m comparing it to hardtails but bear with me here, it's part of why I struggled with initial setup. The Darco rides more like a hardtail than it does a squishy bike, it's snappy, responsive, and the ride can feel harsh if you’re thinking about it as an aggressive full suspension bike. If you’re charging hard, this bike requires a setup that’s built for speed, not comfort. You’re using the rear suspension to take the harshest edge off big hits, and dull but not dissipate trail chatter.
Hardtails can be great fun but where they tend to break down for me is high speed rough sections. Rough, steep, janky, and technical are all fine where geometry is more important than suspension. Same on smooth fast trails, if there’s significant features or jumps you’ve lowered your margin of error, but they’re great fun. Put rough and speed together, and I struggle with the harshness, braking traction, and everything becomes less fun. To put this in real world terms, Severed D is possibly my least favourite hardtail trail on the Shore (Ok, maybe Ned’s Atomic Dustbin is worse). Its fast, not particularly technical, but very rough. On the Darco, Severed is a significantly more enjoyable experience than on an actual hardtail. The bike smooths just enough chatter out to maintain more control, carry more speed, and enjoy the trail more than I would on a hardtail.
Overall, the Chromag Darco is a stable, predictable platform. It's low slung nature combined with longer front end put me in a good riding position where I was comfortable in most terrain. When things get mega gnarly, you need to remember how much suspension you don’t have and approach accordingly, but as long as you keep centered and can keep the bike slowed, you’ll do fine on almost all terrain. Again like riding a hardtail, when it all comes together, it's a riot. When you're having an off day, there's the creeping thought that perhaps you should just set the bike on fire and walk home.

Steep and janky moves are one area the Darco shines. Photo: Deniz Merdano
Comparisons
The Darco is a hard bike to cross shop - in many ways it stands alone, and you already know if it sounds like the bike for you. Perhaps the closest comparable in my recent memory is the Canyon Spectral 125 CF 8, reviewed by Niels here. Many of his reactions and feelings coming to grips with a bike that has a burly front end, aggressive geometry, and short travel rear end apply equally well to the Darco. Initially, I might have thought you'd plunk the Darco into the dreaded 'downcountry' bracket - along with bikes like the Transition Spur, Santa Cruz Tallboy, or Rocky Mountain Element feel vastly different. They share the need to be precise, however smaller forks, lighter wheels/tires, and massively lighter chassis lead to a class of bikes the Darco just doesn't compare with.

I greatly enjoyed my time on the Transition Spur (and compared it with the Santa Cruz Tallboy here) but both are very different than the Darco. Photo: Deniz Merdano
Conclusions
Chromag, as a brand, was built on hardtails for hard terrain, and hard people. There was no real business case for the TRL; it was a bike designed specifically for what Ian wanted to ride. The staff count has grown, but they’re still following this ethos – 100% focused on their riding, taking Fridays off, and building only the bikes they want to.
More recently, the brand has delved into titanium, an aluminum full suspension kids bike, and now this. The common thread I see here is that the fine men and women behind Chromag are just like the rest of us; we’re all aging, evolving. Some of the dirtbags from Whistler in the early 2000s are now ex-dirtbags and want a little something ‘extra’ over the standard bike – enter titanium. Many have growing shredder kids now – enter the Minor Threat. Many, and perhaps I’m just projecting myself onto Chromag here, are finding the thought of hardtails anymore as just a bit much. A bit too punishing on a body that’s seen its fair share of riding, crashes, and beers. Enter the Darco; the hardtail for people getting softer. In my mind, it makes perfect sense as the brand evolves with the riders behind it.
Arguably, if I could change one thing about the Darco, it might be to give it less travel. Embrace the 'soft tail' nature, remove any questions and comparisons to true full suspension bikes, and possibly lighten it up by adding some flex stays and removing some pivots.

We were cursed with dust and searing summer light while shooting the Darco. It's a 120mm bike, so no kneepads it is. Photo: Deniz Merdano
So is it a bike for you? Do you want all day comfort on a hardtail? Do you want most of the responsive, snappy hardtail nature with a bit of the edge taken off in the rough bits? Have you always wanted a Chromag, but hardtails just aren’t your thing? Is the hardtail in your garage not seeing enough riding these days, because it sounds uncomfortable? If weight isn’t a priority for you (as I look in the mirror, it probably shouldn’t be, Dad-bod. Maybe skip a couple beers and worry less about what your bike weighs?), and you like a winch/plummet style ride, the Darco could be for you.
The Darco isn't forgiving, but can be rewarding.
Do you want to show up with the most unique, eye-and-question-catching bike on your next group ride, and the steel Darco is too heavy for you? Fortunately, Chromag has you covered there, too. You may have caught this secret prototype on display in the most prominent position imaginable in mountain biking; the SRAM pavilion at Crankworx, but now you can purchase your very own Darco Ti frame and shock for a mere $5,700.
But don't just take it from me - I asked a current Darco LTD owner about his experience thus far.
I’ve been waiting for Chromag to come out with this bike for a few years, heard a few details early on and was super keen. Got a call asking if I was interested and as I was doing the BCBR this bike was perfect for my riding style. Geometry is spot on for any trail bike but at 120mm travel it is spot on, though being an XL it is very long. It has been absolutely bombproof for the 8 months that I’ve had it and during the BCBR it was flawless. During the race the bike was kind of a super model as it got a lot of attention, leave it in a rack next to other bikes and it got noticed. - Brian B, Darco LTD owner
So there you have it. The full suspension Chromag has felt something like a flying car or fully autonomous cars; they're always in development, just around the corner, and yet have been perpetually in that state for many years, but it's here now, and it's for sale. Are you buying one? Are you shopping for something else? Are you sticking with your 2015 Rootdown forever? Let us know down in the comments.
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Mark
1 year ago
This review does a great job of highlighting the type of rider and the type of ride this bike is made for. It easily fits into the "either you get it or you don't" mindset and you either know if this bike will work for you or it won't. Personally, some of my favourite/best rides have been on hardtails, so this definitely seems like a bike that could expand on the number of those rides by a noticeable margin.
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Todd Hellinga
1 year ago
Miss ya D'Arcy!
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
♥️
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Lu Kz
1 year ago
Now if only I had a set of 16 degree sweep bars to go with my Darco, I'd be all set.
Seriously though, beautiful bike. Don't have room for it, I don't think it's the fit I like, but beautiful bike. Reminds me a bit more of the Optic rather than the newer 'down country' offerings, aka a competent trail bike for those whose minds are not clouded by illusions of marathon racing.
On the other hand, the idea of a second steel fully in the fleet is kinda tempting...
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Alt-bar comments will have to be directed at Andrew, I'm afraid. I'm boring in that department.
'second steel fully'!?
What's the first one!
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Perry Schebel
1 year ago
alt-bar-andrew, as we like to call him
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Lu Kz
1 year ago
That would be my 2017 Daambuilt, pictured below in fuzzy potato phone glory with a fresh build and paint job for 2023! Not quite a NSMB/Andrew style min-max if it's closer to a near-max :)
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AndrewR
1 year ago
That is a very nice paint job.
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Lu Kz
1 year ago
Thanks! It's the (current) culmination of about 3-4 years of learning and painting, I'm stoked on it. It's funny, I used to like fairly subdued paintjobs (this bike was originally charcoal and blue, the Rocky was orange and dark green), and now that I'm painting them myself I'm going for the more obnoxious variety. Next is a neon fade gravel bike, and then a hawaiian shirt Aurum HSP.
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JT
1 year ago
Me: My current bike is great.
Chromag: Check this out.
My wallet: Gold card I presume?
My wife: Again?!?
I'll have to hold off til next season before any rash/brash choices are made that may put in peril the economic harmony under my roof but OOOOOHHHHH MYMYMYMY. Giving 44Bikes a run for the money.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Just follow your heart*!
*NSMB.com hereby absolves itself of any marital liabilities associated with actions taken from this post. Commentors proceed at their own peril.
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danithemechanic
1 year ago
When the article came out here in Italy was mid-evening. Most of you were probably just about to wake up to having breakfast spanning from coast to coast.
So there were no comments, and i really didn't want to be the first. I wanted to see what people thought first.
Weird enough i don't see comments on the most exciting feature of these bikes: we're in 2022, they're steel full suspension bikes, and they have full external cable routing.
Chromag warmed my heart yesterday.
I'll care about geo and other things later. Let me soak in their glow for a moment.
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fartymarty
1 year ago
As a Starling owner I wouldn't expect less than external cable routing on a steel bike. I'm glad Chromag feel the same way. At least there is still some common sense left in the world.
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Cy Whitling
1 year ago
Really cool insight. And so neat to see bikes like this that are made for a pretty specific type of rider, in a pretty specific use case. Sounds like it'd be incredible on 2/3's of trails in the Tetons, and a bit frustrating on the other third.
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JSW07
1 year ago
According to the size chart at 5'9" Chromag puts me on M/L with a 490 Reach!!!! 😳🤔
Does this sound crazy to anyone else?!
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Look at ETT. I'm not saying they're short, but reach isn't always a great measurement.
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Justin White
1 year ago
Reach is certainly a good measurement for how it will feel when standing up (descending). Same as ETT is good for how it will feel when seated (climbing). It's not everything, certainly front center also has a big impact on descending feel...
I thought the same that 490 is pretty long for that height range. Going from 405 to 425 to 455 over the past decade-ish, with stem length shortening by about half each time, don't see myself loving 490 since I'd only be able to bring the stem down by about 10mm, and that would have me pretty stretched out when standing. It does make the window of being centered a bit larger, but can also make it hard to weight the front when needed, which is nice when you're not on the steepest stuff.
Those reaches definitely fit their terrain goals, but also definitely might be a bit too much for many people not on the identical terrain.
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Allen Lloyd
1 year ago
This thing sounds perfect. I rode a Nimble 9 for years and love hardtails. When I moved west I bought a first gen Hightower and enjoy that bike a ton. BUT at the end of the day I yearn for a hardtail. You hit the nail on the head, when the speed picks up a hardtail just loses something and having just enough travel is very appealing to me. Maybe the right answer is to get one of these and a can of gold paint, because that gold bike is very sexxy.
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Todd Hellinga
1 year ago
love the brand and aesthetic, although my middle aged dadbod kinda wishes it was 5 pounds lighter with 20mm more travel! haha
That being said, if I could get a raw frame with clearcoat to match my Samurai65 I'd probably be explaining a new bike purchase to my wife...
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
"[weight] probably shouldn’t be [a concern], Dad-bod. Maybe skip a couple beers and worry less about what your bike weighs?"
;-)
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earle.b
1 year ago
You need them to mash up a Darco and a Lowdown for something in the middle. Having climbed enough with you...I don't think the extra weight's going to hold you back.
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Andy Eunson
1 year ago
If you go 10 pounds overweight then you’ll have way more than 20mm travel. In your man boobs. It’s why I don’t run anymore.
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Justin White
1 year ago
I'm slightly disappointed to see, in 2022, 3.5+ inches of front-center change with 0 inches of rear-center change. The S size isn't a super-small "small", but it's definitely going to ride quite differently* than the pretty large XL size.
However, the M or ML sizes look great for my size and riding. And for a $5K USD build, it's awesome. It'll be on my short-list of full builds for sure.
* Yes, all bikes are going to ride slightly differently in different sizes, but considering the frequent mentions of how this one is supposed to feel quite snappy, and that staying centered is a good way to ride it, shouldn't that snappiness and center point be adjusted to match the size?
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Andy Eunson
1 year ago
Yes. If you divide rear centre by wheelbase you get a different weight distribution as you go up in sizes. Is that good bad or indifferent?
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Piccadilly
1 year ago
I'm new in this field but these bikes look great!
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DMVancouver
1 year ago
You nailed the description of where hardtails fall apart. That said, Ned’s and Severed are a blast on a hardtail if you get going fast enough to skip over the chop. At that medium speed, the back wheel hangs on everything and it’s not a rewarding experience. Plus you get a few mils of plastic travel when you dent your rim.
Probably my least favourite hardtail experience is a blown-out mid-August John Deer, where you just can’t track through corners as the back wheel skips around.
I’ve often thought that a full-suspension hardtail would be ideal - something with direct trail feedback but just a bit of rear travel to help the bike track better, basically the steel frame compliance we’re all looking for, which can’t actually be achieved by frame flex alone. This bike could be it.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Weirdly, I like Ned's on a hardtail, I do not like Severed. I just said Ned's is worse, because its rougher.
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DMVancouver
1 year ago
Severed is the hardtail of Shore trails - on a good day, it flows; on a bad day, you’re coming to a stop, maybe upside down, in the bushes. Combining the hardtail of trails with the hardtail of bikes has the potential for a bad time.
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Cr4w
1 year ago
If Severed is the hardtail of Shore trails then what is Granny's or Upper Crippler? The 29x2.8 rigid singlespeed of shore trails? Someone get Andrew. He'll know.
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Mark
1 year ago
C'mon people, everyone knows that Pile of Rocks is the hardtail of Shore trails.
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Sanesh Iyer
1 year ago
Awesome.
This bike seems like a spiritual successor to the Banshee Wildcard and Transition Bottlerocket. Geometry to get you into trouble, suspension just to take the edge off.
This is the type of bike I think more brands should make and more people should own. The fun is there, as is the skill building. It's certainly not down country. I think you're right.. let's embrace soft tail.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Its not dissimilar in some ways to the Transition Smuggler, certainly. But that's 1) a bike I've never spent time on, and 2) still not as "staggered" with f/r travel offset.
...I'm realizing now I missed a bunch of good mullet references here with the big fork and short travel rear end.
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Sanesh Iyer
1 year ago
I forgot about that one. It is discontinued :(
Yeah, I was surprised you didn't make any. I kind of appreciated it.
The suspension setup is weird with staggered bikes. What you said resonates with me... The rear is not for grip, it's for not getting bucked when your rear wheel hangs up on a rock at the exit of a big move.
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Hugo Williamson
1 year ago
Would be interesting to put this up against a classic carbon short traveller with good geometry eg 5010
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Kenny
1 year ago
Cooper references the fact that when it comes to the Darco, there's really not to many bikes you can really cross shop.
With the 5010, it feels like more differences than similarities to me personally?
The design brief for the 5010 is agile trail bike, brief for the Darco is more like short travel gnar bruiser, and you can tell.
They're almost 2 sizes different when it comes to reach numbers, 5010 a full degree steeper in head angle, mx, and 10mm more rear travel and 10mm less front.
With an angle set in the 5010 and some unconventional sizing choices you could narrow the gap I suppose.
An interesting comparison for me will be against the (yet unreleased) new transition smuggler. Transition push the board out further in terms of long and slack so I wouldn't be surprised if these are more similar.
Also Optic maybe, but still a size different on reach and a degree steeper.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Yeah I mean... there's a lot of other bikes out there with similar rear travel numbers, and/or even some geometry similarities. But I'd argue/suggest that most of them are going to be very different than the Darco.
You're also right in that Transition has had some bikes that are... more similar than most?
That said, I think most bikes with bigger travel offsets f/r have been longer travel rigs, eg. 150/130, 160/140, etc. Which puts them more in the 'trail' category, than... whatever 120mm is.
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earle.b
1 year ago
Massive glaring error by this hack bike reviewer. Seatstays are clearly steel and not aluminium as stated in the article.
I want my money back.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Correct - seatstays are steel.
I'll file your refund request in the appropriate bin for processing.
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thaaad
1 year ago
One thing I didn't see in any of the publications online so far is the weight, strongly considering picking up a steel Darco.
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Shoreboy
1 year ago
Caption on one of the pics quotes '35lb bike'. Not sure if this is a guess or an actual weight.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Its in that range - of note the bike I had was equipped with a Pike, while the website indicates completes now ship with a Lyrik. You could dump a couple pounds if you wanted to by swapping cranks/bars/saddle/cassette.
I also can't honestly remember if I weighed it with pedals or not. And it'll obviously vary with size.
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WalterWhite
1 year ago
My XL with a mostly GX build, Fox 36 and ready to ride is around 36lbs in Shore mode with Chromag Phase 30 wheels and suitably sticky tires. In BCBR race trim I got it to around 34lbs with lightweight wheels and tires.
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Carlos Matutes
1 year ago
I miss my Rootdown, but the combination of moving to rockier trails and being in my 50s precludes me from getting another one.
Dare I consider trading the Knolly Chilcotin that was my 50th birthday gift for a Lowdown?!?
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cascadehops
1 year ago
Have been on a Darco LTD since June. Really well balanced ride and overall a great little bike. Can take some big hits, but does pack out at high speed in really rough fast sections. Compared to an Optic, the Darco rides more like a bigger bike and isn't as twitchy as the Optic. Could be the extra heft and longer wheelbase with the slacker front end.
Was initially a bit worried about reach (it is about 25mm longer than bike I had come from on paper). Ordered with short 32mm stem to compensate. After 1 ride went back to normal 40mm. Bike just feels right. The reach numbers aren't as extreme when riding. Geo really works well. The 78 STA props you into a great climbing position, and the bike has really good traction. Not overly agile, but is moveable on tech climbs and easy to keep the front end down and tracking where you point it.
If you like the long slack hardtails and are getting old and want some cush then the Darco is for you. Don't put it on a scale and compare to other 120mm bikes.
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danimaniac
10 months ago
Hey Cooper, Andrew, Rest of crew
Your idea of less travel, less pivots, flexxy stays is exactly what we came up with mid November while brainstorming for a fully for the HT lovers.
Just as a group of folks hanging out on an internet forum, pinging linkage designs back and fourth, cancelling ideas while passing new ones we were lucky to have a talented framebuilder within the group who just said: let's do it
As the bike has been shown on cyclingworld (fair in Düsseldorf, Germany) you might want to have a look
https://www.rheintritt.nrw/newpage
If you want I can give you deeper insight
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Kenny
9 months, 4 weeks ago
Cool, reminds me a little of the (sadly, no longer produced) swarf contour, which I'd consider one of the sexiest bikes around.
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danimaniac
9 months, 4 weeks ago
That's good company to be compared to!
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4Runner1
1 year ago
Bravo, Chromag! Gorgeous and the want factor is high. Unfortunately I haven’t the back for this rig. I think maybe they’re too hardcore for me?
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Perhaps you're looking for a Lowdown?
https://chromagbikes.com/collections/full-suspension/products/lowdown
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4Runner1
1 year ago
Looking at the geo #’s, I’d say the Lowdown is going to be no less hardcore and niche.
Now, if I were a rich man and could have one of each for “the right day”..😉
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Hbar
1 year ago
Nice. The REEB SST has similar travel numbers (and build material), but it sounds like it rides quite differently. That's interesting (to me at least)
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
I almost made a joke in the copy about how commentors were going to mention six bikes that were similar that I hadn't thought of - REEB is definitely one. Interesting they spec the SST with an inline coil shock.
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Duncan Wright
1 year ago
It really is so similar on the surface, and so different in reality. Both bikes are obviously products of their environment - don't think the SST would be as happy a camper on the Shore. I will say for the SST that it's rear travel is opposite of what the Darco seems like - it's surprisingly bottomless for being so little on paper. Adam Prosise charges hard enough for that coil, but I didn't like it and was much happier once I switched to the Super Deluxe Ultimate, which is in no way too much shock for it.
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Hbar
1 year ago
PS: I meant to say "NIce review" (not just "nice"): you painted a clear word-picture about how it rode
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Thanks!
That's the goal with every review for me - whether I love a bike, or don't, or fall somewhere in the middle is somewhat important, but its more important to try and communicate who will love the thing. And why you'd buy it, or why you wouldn't, based on your particular needs and desires.
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chacou
1 year ago
The Reeb SST GX ($6495 USD) build is spec'd w/ a RS Deluxe Ultimate and the XO1 AXS ($9895) is spec'd w/ a Super Deluxe Ultimate. It is designed to be compatible with a coil, and it's sexy as hell w/ a coil. It is a fairly different geometry than the Darco though, likely a result of the local terrain of the designers.
If I were in the market, I'd take the Reeb, but I'm also in Colorado so there's that local brand loyalty aspect and "made for here", not to mention I'm a sucker for straight steel tubes. The Darco looks real nice as well and a well written review. It sounds like it's trying to fill a very specific user need, that I personally don't have with a progressive HT and my ~145mm FS in the garage.
Hopefully you all can get your hands on a SST to see how it does on the shore ;)
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Andy Eunson
1 year ago
Good review my man. I like how I can read between the lines and determine this bike probably won’t fit my particular proportions that well. I would like to demo one though. Hopefully I’ll be able to do that come spring.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Thanks Andy - I think you probably live in the right neighborhood, and know the right people, to finagle swinging a leg over one!
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WalterWhite
1 year ago
I have an XL if anyone is interested in checking out that size.
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Andy Eunson
1 year ago
I do and I do. Chromag are a 6 minute ride from home. The fellow I know is from Winnipeg too, like me.
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Sanitylost
1 year ago
I’m hoping that some of the geometry of the Darco influence the next gen hard tails.
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Julian Sammons
1 year ago
I just built up a beat up old 2018 alloy GG Trail Pistol for my short travel/winter bike, and fits the description in this review quite well. It was perfect for me, as it replaced my hardtail (which I'll inevitably build back up because I'm stupid). Only running it in the more progressive flip chip setting.
I think the current Trail Pistol isn't too different from the old alloy one, might be a good comparison to the Darco, aside from frame material.
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AndrewR
1 year ago
No size scaled rear centre/ chain stay length. 435 mm is okay for a 29" hard tail (barely) but 435 mm before sag (which effectively shortens the rear centre) is too short. Centred balance beats a short rear centre for trail stability and manoeuvrability any and every day. The biggest reason I choose my Sight over my Optic on any of those 'not sure which bike to take' days is the extra 5 mm of rear centre and the steeper STA which helps me stay centred without effort and creates a more natural effective reach.
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a.funks
1 year ago
These bikes look so cool! The sagged geometry actually rather similar to my Pipedream Moxie 160mm hardtail’s so I know it works.
The 78 deg seat tube angle won’t be that steep at saddle height for most riders because the seat tube has a bend in it - my Moxie is the same, the chart says 77.5 deg but it’s actually just over 75 at my saddle height (which steepens to about 76 with fork sag).
Quite a lot of my local riding is flowy singletrack, not steep nor rough, but despite that the geometry works for me there - and it’s so much better than shorter steeper bikes on the gnarly stuff.
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C.C.
1 year ago
Looking for the mullet and coil option. You know it's dangerous when you start researching 165 X 45 mm Trunnion coil options. So much want, but probably not the right bike for me.
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cascadehops
1 year ago
Cannot fit a coil on
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Cooper Quinn
11 months, 3 weeks ago
And given how many tokens I needed to add, I'd say the leverage curve is probably poorly suited to it.
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Brian Tuulos
1 year ago
Does a 78* SA on a bike with only 120mm make sense? In my opinion, steep seat angles make sense on big squish bikes with alot of travel.
And 64* HA on a bike that can't be pushed that hard? What is going on with geo these days. Have we jumped the shark?
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
The STA also helps lower ETT - the reach numbers on the Darco are quite large. And as I quoted from Chromag, the Darco is built for Sea to Sky riding, “perfect for the type of terrain we have in the Sea to Sky, steep climbs and steeper descents.” Overly steep STAs may not be great on undulating or flat terrain, but 1) that's not what the Darco is built for, and 2) I don't think this crosses the line to 'overly' steep.
I'm not sure where you got that the bike can't be pushed hard?
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Brian Tuulos
1 year ago
120mm has its limits I imagine.
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Justin White
1 year ago
Hard is relative.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
I think most bikes have limits?
I also think most people would be surprised what they could ride on a 120mm bike if they gave it a shot.
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Sanesh Iyer
1 year ago
Chromag hardtails have no limits, as far as mortals are concerned. Evidence, Jinya:
https://vimeo.com/25379880
Going back and forth between my Titan and Rootdown has helped push me. Titan is great for the worst conditions and Teeing up new moves. Build confidence. Then I come back to ride it on my Chromag.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
I linked to that video in the first paragraph!
...because its insane.
Sanesh Iyer
1 year ago
Ha. Sorry I didn't click on it. I did read that line and imagine Jinya though.
Justin White
1 year ago
Geometry is mostly orthogonal to travel: they accomplish mostly different things. And though there can be some overlap, one does not make up for the other nor does one require the other.
Steep STA certainly is more needed with longer rear travel and the associated tendency to sag more on sustained steep climbs, but it also certainly doesn't hurt to get that ETT shorter on any bike when the intended terrain is that same steep terrain.
Same for HTA. The resulting long front-center and "out-front" (how far the axle is in front of the hands) is beneficial for descending steep stuff no matter how much travel is involved. Less travel means you have less margin for error and might have to go a little slower or push a little less hard, but since without the front wheel in the right place to begin you won't be enjoying going down that stuff at any speed...
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Lu Kz
1 year ago
All bikes can be pushed hard.
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Kenny
1 year ago
As a north shore rider who had never ventured to Whistler, I was starting to think Chromag had taken their geo too far, STAs especially.
Then a did a few climbs in Whistler and went "oh... that's why their bikes are like that."
The geo makes 100% sense for Whistler. It makes reasonable sense for the shore/squamish, depending on what you like to ride. As terrain gets mellower, the geo gets less useful (and chromag themselves specifically make a point of saying they build bikes for what they ride).
I've owned a couple chromags, last was a 2019 rootdown, just as the geo was becoming a little much for me personally.
So, I worry the geo is too extreme for me as despite mostly riding sea to sky I am more of a wanderer than a straight up, straight down sort of guy.
That said I'm 5'11/180cm, chromag put me between an M/L and and L.
I'd be inclined to try an M. More seat post extension will effectively slacken the STA and lengthen the ETT.
Still a 1250 wheelbase or so and more than 800mm of front center. Enough for me for pretty much anything I ride.
I do love the idea of a "super hard tail".
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Velocipedestrian
1 year ago
Like 'Superenduro'? I like it.
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PowellRiviera
1 year ago
My sense as well. 78 degrees is just too steep for most of the riding I do in Powell River. Feels awkward anywhere but pointing up or get that seat out of the way. I love 74-75 STA.
I've also been riding since the late 80's and I like to move around on the bike.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
It'd be a great STA for the last punch up to the top of Rockwell? The Darco would be a sweet Mahoney bike... not so much Duck Lake.
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PowellRiviera
1 year ago
Ok cool, that was my sense. Thanks for that.
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lance-h
1 year ago
Reach too long, STA too steep... Pinkbike comment section built this bike.
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Carlos Matutes
1 year ago
Seriously?!? Are you complete unaware of Chromag as a company?
For example, the Doctahawk… https://us.chromagbikes.com/products/doctahawk
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lance-h
1 year ago
hahaha
I have owned three Chromag's over the years in which I have loved. Not always super steep seat tubes at all. Call me old fashioned but I have not enjoyed the latest "skeleton luge inspired" reach numbers of some bikes. I sit in the M/L size for a 620 TT which makes for comfortable climbing which makes for a 490mm reach. I feel this takes away from the bikes ability to bunny hop, ride slow ledgey terrain and just the general pop-a-wheelie lifestyle that I embrace.
I feel like my pedals are behind my seat which generally leads to my toes soo far in front of the pedal axles resulting in knee pain.
Offset seat posts and 32mm stems cannot adjust this geo into working for me sadly
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Kenny
1 year ago
The climb up Blackcomb built this bike.
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Cooper Quinn
1 year ago
Or that godforsaken section of Flank up to Howler.
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