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To be clear

I said

He is part of the solution. The problem is too many entitled pricks sit on their asses looking for " their fair share"
From the pockets of those that work for a living.

People that work hard to get ahead are being turned into villains for their hard work and success.

The USA is fucked, stick a fork in them, they're done.

^^^^ see anywhere where I supported taking away healthcare ?

Then couch_surfer hits back with this bullshit

What a laugh.

All those entitled poor folks working at subsistence wages hoping they don't break an arm for fear that they go to a hospital and are in debt for life. The great 'conservative' narrative is pathetic.

Because ALL Christians are bad because of the way some act. Using his logic all Muslims are terrorists because of the actions of a few lunatics ( they are not)

To which I replied

There ya go ASSuming I am against healthcare, where did I say that.
I said there are too many lazy asses fucks sitting on their asses ( not working at all) sucking the nation dry that feel their fair share is in people like Brians wallets…

People like this dumb bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

or this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

The multi generational lazy assed welfare families are hurting the working poor more than the well off by sucking up money that could be used to help those with low incomes.

You want to see pathetic look at what you ASSume in your post, my wife and are Christians, we give 1000s of dollars a year to help the needy/poor/sick.

That's pathetic, you assumptive hater. Go look in a mirror.

he missed that completely ^^^

to which couchy replied, and used someone elses comments about hunting, fishing and ATVs to attack me for something I did not say.

Want a cookie?

Do you have any real data that show all of these multi-generational lazy assed welfare families? Or just more youtube videos? The story you guys try to tell is comical… Entire Families sitting around, waiting for healthcare reform to be enacted so that the can continue their entitled lifestyles of hunting, fishing and riding around in ATVs. :lol:

I was going to hunt around for some awesome youtube videos to prove my point like you did, but since that's also laughable, I'll just go with some numbers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/15/us-usa-economy-workingpoor-idUSBRE90E05520130115

I think those numbers are shocking for a country with the wealth and resources of the US. Half a trillion on defense? Christian Right wing is all for that… Half a trillion for health care that could help the working poor? Screw that, those lazy assed multi-generational welfare families are just after my money.

followed by me with this, funny thing is ALL of his sources are fine yet none of mine were, and he claimed all these sources led back to a flawed study by a major us College

http://www.econ.brown.edu/econ/events/mogstad.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/09/...es-dependency/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/opinio...ncy/index.html

http://www.baconsrebellion.com/2013/...ependency.html

**You and I will probably never agree on much politically, but maybe we can on this.

Our system is broken, something has to change,you cannot tax a society back to prosperity, and in order to give a government must first take.

Something has to bring jobs back to North America or we will only have a resource based economy to give us employment. Big predatory businesses like Walmart need to be punished somehow for forcing North American companies to source their goods from China. We don't need free trade, we need fair trade. Nations with huge duties on our goods need to have the same high duties on their exports at our borders.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve Banks and dissolving the military industrial complex would be a good start.**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

http://www.scionofzion.com/federalreserve.htm

Notice that the usual haters chose to ignore all my bolded comments and continue to blindly maliciously attack, discounting any conservative source as a "talking point"

why is it all conservative views are thrown out and just talking points?

followed by my comment

See what's happening here, all my sources are wrong or flawed, where yours are not. It is impossible to have any type or reasonable discourse with anyone that's mind is shuttered as hard as yours is. You automatically dismiss any idea or report that doesn't alighn with your viewpoint.You are not trying to understand me at all, in fact you use a comment from another member to formulate your attack on me (quads [HTML_REMOVED] fishing). Yet you choose to ignore clear comments made on my position on healthcare and continue harping on questions already answered.

Your mind is made up, talking with you is like pushing a rope. The first research article you dismiss is from Brown University, a respected US College. It us almost laughable that sites and blogs you have used as sources over time are fine yet any source myself, or similar opined person cites is crap.

There is no point even trying any further to further this, your obvious, blatant , loathing and hatred of anyone that identifies themselves as a Christian Right thinker leaves you no credibility, none. You can respond to this or not, it will not be seen by me, but feel free to continue with your one sided attacks.

Take off the blinders

I am outta here, you all can keep your hate, and continue to drive away other members who's views vary from the blatantly obvious left wing cess pool of anti Christian bigotry that this place has become.

Whoever that last person here is, don't forget to turn out the lights :)

Followed by an attack by the BBs keyboard hero XXXer

Actualy I am pretty sure you will be back here next time to tell everyone you are a christian which we already know and then act butt hurt like some character from the bible …its so cliche

Followed by JBazzett insinuating that we don't help the needy.Well JB the wife and I sponsor a child in Ethiopia,through CCF, give a donation every year to the peoples place (soup kitchen/shelter) and donate to other local charities, we even help a guy on disability with his expenses every few months.

in spite of this we Christians are are bad…

followed by some more hate from XXXer the internet tough guy.

GT could have quit playing the butthurt christian any time but he seemed to revel in it like a dog rolling in shit

And the crowning piece of it all from ole flipper. attacking me for being for something i clearly stated i was opposed to

You and I will probably never agree on much politically, but maybe we can on this.

Our system is broken, something has to change,you cannot tax a society back to prosperity, and in order to give a government must first take.

Something has to bring jobs back to North America or we will only have a resource based economy to give us employment. Big predatory businesses like Walmart need to be punished somehow for forcing North American companies to source their goods from China. We don't need free trade, we need fair trade. Nations with huge duties on our goods need to have the same high duties on their exports at our borders.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve Banks and dissolving the military industrial complex would be a good start.

but see, the problem isn't "too many entitled pricks" sitting on their asses not wanting to work, pssst there's to few jobs anymore. It's the entitled pricks in power funnelling money to their military corporate industrial masters while the unwashed masses fight over the scraps. The whole premise of his argument is flawed, imo.

^^^^ Is that not a classic example of closed minded hate and backing up both mine and Tackleboxes comments?

I would like to thank Tacklebox for these supportive comments vvvv

Omfg, you dingbats are so far off the point GT was making that its not even funny anymore.

Fact: you guys are lumping the lazy in the same pile as the poor. GT takes exception to this, farmer says they're all ripping around on quads while he's at work.

You folks are confusing GT with Farmer. You owe GT an apology.

You all can think of me what you will. It is apparent to anyone that there is a very strong vein of hatred towards anyone who has a few differing from those of many on the board. I for one am not going to participate in any community that feels it is ok to spew hatred at and dismiss the views of all that vary from their own narrow mindset.Even when a respected member who has views that differ from my own (Tacklebox) tries to express what I am trying to say he is blown off.

So yes…I am taking my ball home and not playing anymore because, you become what you associate with, and I will not associate with hateful people like the person below et al for another second

GT could have quit playing the butthurt christian any time but he seemed to revel in it like a dog rolling in shit

If you see me online here it will be due to me logging on for personal messages. I will NEVER post again on NBR, my position is clear, and so is the hate from some of the others. So flame away boys,just remeber GT won't be reading your responses so don't waste too much of your valuable time posting and then expect a reply

Live long and prosper/

See what's happening here, all my sources are wrong or flawed, where yours are not. It is impossible to have any type or reasonable discourse with anyone that's mind is shuttered as hard as yours is. You automatically dismiss any idea or report that doesn't alighn with your viewpoint.You are not trying to understand me at all, in fact you use a comment from another member to formulate your attack on me (quads [HTML_REMOVED] fishing). Yet you choose to ignore clear comments made on my position on healthcare and continue harping on questions already answered.

Your mind is made up, talking with you is like pushing a rope. The first research article you dismiss is from Brown University, a respected US College. It us almost laughable that sites and blogs you have used as sources over time are fine yet any source myself, or similar opined person cites is crap.

There is no point even trying any further to further this, your obvious, blatant , loathing and hatred of anyone that identifies themselves as a Christian Right thinker leaves you no credibility, none. You can respond to this or not, it will not be seen by me, but feel free to continue with your one sided attacks.

Take off the blinders

I am outta here, you all can keep your hate, and continue to drive away other members who's views vary from the blatantly obvious left wing cess pool of anti Christian bigotry that this place has become.

Whoever that last person here is, don't forget to turn out the lights :)

It's not the lazy asses that suck the money out of the country - it's the Wall Street derivative manufacturers and the warmongers that sucked trillions of dollars out of the country.

it's both the lazy asses and the banksters.

But you're welcome to google your own argument and provide data, stats or any 'facts' you have. I'm sure we'd be very interested in reading your sources.

http://www.econ.brown.edu/econ/events/mogstad.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/09/president-obama-admits-welfare-encourages-dependency/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/21/opinion/spalding-welfare-state-dependency/index.html

http://www.baconsrebellion.com/2013/07/welfare-dependency-breeds-more-welfare-dependency.html

You and I will probably never agree on much politically, but maybe we can on this.

Our system is broken, something has to change,you cannot tax a society back to prosperity, and in order to give a government must first take.

Something has to bring jobs back to North America or we will only have a resource based economy to give us employment. Big predatory businesses like Walmart need to be punished somehow for forcing North American companies to source their goods from China. We don't need free trade, we need fair trade. Nations with huge duties on our goods need to have the same high duties on their exports at our borders.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve Banks and dissolving the military industrial complex would be a good start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

http://www.scionofzion.com/federalreserve.htm

Want a cookie?

Do you have any real data that show all of these multi-generational lazy assed welfare families? Or just more youtube videos? The story you guys try to tell is comical… Entire Families sitting around, waiting for healthcare reform to be enacted so that the can continue their entitled lifestyles of hunting, fishing and riding around in ATVs. :lol:

I was going to hunt around for some awesome youtube videos to prove my point like you did, but since that's also laughable, I'll just go with some numbers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/15/us-usa-economy-workingpoor-idUSBRE90E05520130115

I think those numbers are shocking for a country with the wealth and resources of the US. Half a trillion on defense? Christian Right wing is all for that … Half a trillion for health care that could help the working poor? Screw that, those lazy assed multi-generational welfare families are just after my money.

Quads,hunting and fishing? in Detroit,Chicago etc?…doubtful. You best put down the crack pipe and back away slowly. If you don't believe that generational welfare exists you are lying to and/or deluding yourself. Put generational welfare into Google, you will find plenty of evidence to support that it exists.

As well, I am sure that some Christian right wingers support the half trillion the USA spends on war each year, that said its highly unlikely all do and your painting ALL of them with that broad brush is ethically bankrupt.Doubtless there are other left wing Democrat type moonbats just like you :) that support and earn a living from the war industry.

I do agree that the USA with all its resources and wealth shouldn't have the problems with poverty they do, and it is sad that that condition exists not just in the USA but worldwide. I would bet that if the USA/Russia/China etc put the time, money and energy into feeding the world, ending disease, and famine they could accomplish it in no time.

You can go on speaking for and hating me now, you know the Christian right wing you loathe so much.

What a laugh.

All those entitled poor folks working at subsistence wages hoping they don't break an arm for fear that they go to a hospital and are in debt for life. The great 'conservative' narrative is pathetic.

There ya go ASSuming I am against healthcare, where did I say that.
I said there are too many lazy asses fucks sitting on their asses ( not working at all) sucking the nation dry that feel their fair share is in people like Brians wallets…

People like this dumb bitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

or this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

The multi generational lazy assed welfare families are hurting the working poor more than the well off by sucking up money that could be used to help those with low incomes.

You want to see pathetic look at what you ASSume in your post, my wife and are Christians, we give 1000s of dollars a year to help the needy/poor/sick.

That's pathetic, you assumptive hater. Go look in a mirror.

you sir: are part of the problem!

Your terrible choices are going to sink your country. Good luck when you plan on retiring….

He is part of the solution. The problem is too many entitled pricks sit on their asses looking for " their fair share"
From the pockets of those that work for a living.

People that work hard to get ahead are being turned into villains for their hard work and success.

The USA is fucked, stick a fork in them, they're done.

705 tweets, out of what 316 million people.

Wow [sarc] all americans must be ignorant* [/sarc]

Edited for Duncan*

go oilers!

^^^^^

My Wife and i were dressed and ready to go out for a lovely evening of dinner and theatre. Having been burgled in the past, we turned on a 'night light' and the answering machine, then put the cat in the backyard. When our cab arrived, we walked out our front door and our rather tubby cat scooted between our legs inside, then ran up the stairs. Because our cat likes to chase our budgie we really didn't want to leave them unchaperoned so my Wife ran inside to retrieve her and put her in the back yard again.

Because i didn't want the taxi driver to know our house was going to be empty all evening, i explained to him that my Wife would be out momentarily as he was just bidding goodnight to my mother. A few minutes later she got into the cab all hot and bothered, and said (to my growing horror and amusement) as the cab pulled away.

"Sorry it took so long but the stupid bitch was hiding under the bed and i had to poke her arse with a coat hanger to get her to come out! She tried to take off so i grabbed her by the neck and wrapped her in a blanket so she wouldn't scratch me like she did last time. But it worked! I hauled her fat arse down the stairs and threw her into the backyard….she had better not shit in the vegetable garden again."

The silence in the taxi was deafening.